rail nisimasa lunes 5 marzo
13 años 5 meses
1.797
MTTs Lunes 5 marzo.
21:00 The Big 55
21:15 5.4$ Turbo KO*
21:30 $11NL
21:30 $27NL KO*
22:00 11+R (51)*
22:15 $11NL
23:00 $55 NL
23:15 $16.5 NLHE
23:30 16.5 turbo
23:30 $55 6-Max
23:45 $11 Turbo
15% fivetrick
3% pejenaute65
15% alicantinodani
10% kocho
17% pika
5% sebato
A por los dólares!
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10+$1
Stacks:
UTG karafw ([="#0000cc"]4,605[/])
UTG+1 uaredead lol ([="#0000cc"]4,312[/])
MP1 rimpo1111 ([="#0000cc"]2,180[/])
MP2 Siewas ([="#0000cc"]2,925[/])
MP3 ljzaaa ([="#0000cc"]4,445[/])
CO alexii912 ([="#0000cc"]945[/])
BTN nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]2,850[/])
SB Sniperace84 ([="#0000cc"]6,298[/])
BB guest10955 ([="#0000cc"]1,440[/])
Blinds: 15/30
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]45[/], 9 players) nisimasa is BTN 3:heart: 3:spade:
[="#777777"]2 folds[/], rimpo1111 calls 30, [="#777777"]3 folds[/], nisimasa calls 30, Sniperace84 calls 15, guest10955 checks
Flop: J:club: J:heart: 3DIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]120[/], 4 players)
Sniperace84 checks, guest10955 checks, rimpo1111 checks, [="#cc0000"]nisimasa bets 79[/], [="#777777"]Sniperace84 folds[/], guest10955 calls 79, rimpo1111 calls 79
Turn: A:spade: ([="#0000cc"]357[/], 3 players)
[="#cc0000"]guest10955 bets 357[/], rimpo1111 calls 357, [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 2,741[/], [="#cc0000"]guest10955 goes all-in 974[/], [="#777777"]rimpo1111 folds[/]
River: A:heart: ([="#0000cc"]3,376[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]3,376[/]
nisimasa shows a full house, Threes full of Aces
3:heart: 3:spade:
guest10955 shows a full house, Aces full of Jacks
6:spade: A:club:
guest10955 wins [="#0000cc"]3,376[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]1,936)[/]
nisimasa collects [="#0000cc"]1,410[/] (net -[="#0000cc"]1,440[/])
Sniperace84 lost [="#0000cc"]30[/]
rimpo1111 lost [="#0000cc"]466[/]
Perdiendo rebuys absurdamente.
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$20+$5+$2
Stacks:
UTG tollgate ([="#0000cc"]2,465[/])
UTG+1 lottosjanse ([="#0000cc"]13,101[/])
MP1 nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]3,955[/])
MP2 Koma oo7 ([="#0000cc"]3,623[/])
CO IVAN987654 ([="#0000cc"]15,210[/])
BTN Jeffsfan10 ([="#0000cc"]3,400[/])
SB Cresp0 ([="#0000cc"]4,026[/])
BB CrownUpGuy ([="#0000cc"]2,850[/])
Blinds: 300/600 Ante 50
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]1,300[/], 8 players) nisimasa is MP1 7:spade: A:spade:
[="#777777"]2 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 3,905[/], [="#777777"]4 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]CrownUpGuy goes all-in 2,200[/]
Flop: K:heart: 3:club: 9DIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]6,300[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: Q:spade: ([="#0000cc"]6,300[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: JDIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]6,300[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]6,300[/]
CrownUpGuy shows a straight, Nine to King
10DIAMONd 5:heart:
nisimasa shows high card Ace
7:spade: A:spade:
CrownUpGuy wins [="#0000cc"]6,300[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]3,450)[/]
nisimasa collects [="#0000cc"]1,105[/] (net -[="#0000cc"]2,850[/])
Y con esto practicamente out del 27KO
13 años 5 meses
1.797
De momento bustos en los KO 27 y 5,4. El resto on the road.
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Break!
Seguimos en pie en los 8 que nos quedan.
Solo el Big 55 cerca de ITM.
13 años
833
Vas (vamos) muy bien
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10+$1
Stacks:
UTG Beardedbob ([="#0000cc"]13,451[/])
UTG+1 3stajl ([="#0000cc"]5,367[/])
MP1 Faaqs ([="#0000cc"]13,852[/])
MP2 DoePopoe ([="#0000cc"]3,162[/])
MP3 lotnick737 ([="#0000cc"]7,741[/])
CO redbull30200 ([="#0000cc"]4,430[/])
BTN Celeta13 ([="#0000cc"]4,245[/])
SB rontani ([="#0000cc"]3,095[/])
BB nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]7,170[/])
Blinds: 100/200 Ante 25
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]525[/], 9 players) nisimasa is BB A:club: KDIAMONd
Beardedbob calls 200, [="#777777"]3 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]lotnick737 raises to 400[/], [="#777777"]3 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa raises to 1,400[/], [="#777777"]Beardedbob folds[/], [="#cc0000"]lotnick737 goes all-in 7,716[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 5,745[/]
Flop: 3:club: 2:heart: 8:heart: ([="#0000cc"]14,815[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: 10:spade: ([="#0000cc"]14,815[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: 6:spade: ([="#0000cc"]14,815[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]14,815[/]
nisimasa shows high card Ace
A:club: KDIAMONd
lotnick737 shows a pair of Tens
10:heart: A:heart:
lotnick737 wins [="#0000cc"]15,386[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]7,645)[/]
nisimasa lost [="#0000cc"]7,170[/]
Beardedbob lost [="#0000cc"]225[/]
Out del 11 turbo tal que así...
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$50+$5
Stacks:
UTG chris777444 ([="#0000cc"]3,345[/])
UTG+1 thelumeister ([="#0000cc"]7,219[/])
MP1 devolveNZ ([="#0000cc"]2,633[/])
MP2 bubbleboybr ([="#0000cc"]6,448[/])
MP3 Superfizzy ([="#0000cc"]2,498[/])
CO bEatNicK"OG" ([="#0000cc"]4,680[/])
BTN MallsanPoker ([="#0000cc"]5,850[/])
SB BIack88 ([="#0000cc"]3,005[/])
BB nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]6,340[/])
Blinds: 75/150
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]225[/], 9 players) nisimasa is BB A:club: ADIAMONd
[="#cc0000"]chris777444 raises to 300[/], [="#777777"]5 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]MallsanPoker raises to 775[/], [="#777777"]1 fold[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa raises to 1,800[/], [="#cc0000"]chris777444 raises to 2,825[/], [="#cc0000"]MallsanPoker goes all-in 5,850[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 6,340[/], [="#cc0000"]chris777444 goes all-in 520[/]
Flop: 2:club: 10:club: 5DIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]15,120[/], 3 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: 3:club: ([="#0000cc"]15,120[/], 3 players, 3 all-in)
River: 5:club: ([="#0000cc"]15,120[/], 3 players, 3 all-in)
chris777444 says "knew this", chris777444 says "no clue why i went", MallsanPoker says "GOOD WORK STARS"
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]15,120[/]
MallsanPoker shows a flush, King high
K:heart: K:club:
nisimasa shows a flush, Ace high
A:club: ADIAMONd
chris777444 shows two pair, Queens and Fives
Q:heart: Q:spade:
nisimasa wins [="#0000cc"]15,610[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]9,270)[/]
MallsanPoker lost [="#0000cc"]5,850[/]
chris777444 lost [="#0000cc"]3,345[/]
Nos forramos tal q así en el 55!
13 años
833
Así, así
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$15.00+$1.50
Stacks:
UTG Brian Rie ([="#0000cc"]3,899[/])
UTG+1 S3B4S3 ([="#0000cc"]5,708[/])
MP1 KumoZing ([="#0000cc"]4,970[/])
MP2 Mictian88 ([="#0000cc"]11,485[/])
CO SR. RAVE ([="#0000cc"]14,089[/])
BTN nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]2,976[/])
SB dalinks ([="#0000cc"]9,511[/])
BB earpoker ([="#0000cc"]7,080[/])
Blinds: 100/200 Ante 25
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]500[/], 8 players) nisimasa is BTN A:heart: A:club:
[="#777777"]4 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]SR. RAVE raises to 400[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa raises to 1,000[/], [="#777777"]1 fold[/], earpoker calls 800, SR. RAVE calls 600
Flop: Q:spade: 2:club: 9:spade: ([="#0000cc"]3,300[/], 3 players)
earpoker checks, SR. RAVE checks, [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 1,951[/], earpoker calls 1,951, [="#777777"]SR. RAVE folds[/]
Turn: 9DIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]7,202[/], 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: J:club: ([="#0000cc"]7,202[/], 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]7,202[/]
nisimasa shows two pair, Aces and Nines
A:heart: A:club:
earpoker shows a full house, Queens full of Nines
Q:club: QDIAMONd
earpoker wins [="#0000cc"]7,202[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]4,226)[/]
nisimasa lost [="#0000cc"]2,976[/]
SR. RAVE lost [="#0000cc"]1,025[/]
Out del 16.5
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Y out del otro 16.5 esta vez con QQ vs AA
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Nos ponemos en la media en el 11+R con QQ vs JJ
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Queda un mundo, pero soy chip leader del 55 xD
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$50+$5
Stacks:
UTG klauniq ([="#0000cc"]14,461[/])
UTG+1 nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]11,358[/])
CO juzlearnin ([="#0000cc"]9,874[/])
BTN Mishgan 888 ([="#0000cc"]20,055[/])
SB IceTenor ([="#0000cc"]21,156[/])
BB hillel33 ([="#0000cc"]19,183[/])
Blinds: 250/500 Ante 60
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]1,110[/], 6 players) nisimasa is UTG+1 JDIAMONd J:spade:
[="#777777"]1 fold[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa raises to 1,050[/], [="#777777"]1 fold[/], Mishgan 888 calls 1,050, [="#777777"]1 fold[/], hillel33 calls 550
Flop: 7:heart: KDIAMONd ADIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]3,760[/], 3 players)
hillel33 checks, [="#cc0000"]nisimasa bets 1,880[/], Mishgan 888 calls 1,880, [="#777777"]hillel33 folds[/]
Turn: J:heart: ([="#0000cc"]7,520[/], 2 players)
[="#cc0000"]nisimasa bets 2,500[/], Mishgan 888 calls 2,500
River: 9:spade: ([="#0000cc"]12,520[/], 2 players)
[="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 5,868[/], Mishgan 888 calls 5,868
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]24,256[/]
nisimasa shows three of a kind, Jacks
JDIAMONd J:spade:
Mishgan 888 shows a pair of Aces
A:club: 10:spade:
nisimasa wins [="#0000cc"]24,256[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]12,898)[/]
Mishgan 888 lost [="#0000cc"]11,358[/]
hillel33 lost [="#0000cc"]1,110[/]
Botaco en el 6-max go!
13 años 5 meses
1.797
PokerStars Hand #76714936771: Tournament #563010571, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (800/1600) - 2012/03/06 0:46:10 CET [2012/03/05 18:46:10 ET]
Table '563010571 120' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: stomper23 (30669 in chips)
Seat 2: diegokeep (76845 in chips)
Seat 3: Propolis8644 (25580 in chips)
Seat 4: pedroabm (9950 in chips)
Seat 5: Skämmes (22811 in chips)
Seat 6: theshepman11 (88431 in chips)
Seat 7: Fresh Fish (49841 in chips)
Seat 8: nisimasa (17767 in chips)
Seat 9: jeanious (28816 in chips)
stomper23: posts the ante 200
diegokeep: posts the ante 200
Propolis8644: posts the ante 200
pedroabm: posts the ante 200
Skämmes: posts the ante 200
theshepman11: posts the ante 200
Fresh Fish: posts the ante 200
nisimasa: posts the ante 200
jeanious: posts the ante 200
diegokeep: posts small blind 800
Propolis8644: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nisimasa [4s 4d]
pedroabm has timed out
pedroabm: folds
pedroabm is sitting out
Skämmes: folds
theshepman11: folds
Fresh Fish: folds
nisimasa: raises 15967 to 17567 and is all-in
jeanious: folds
pedroabm has returned
stomper23: raises 12902 to 30469 and is all-in
diegokeep: folds
Propolis8644: folds
Uncalled bet (12902) returned to stomper23
*** FLOP *** [6c 6d 8d]
*** TURN *** [6c 6d 8d] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [6c 6d 8d Qs] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nisimasa: shows [4s 4d] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
stomper23: shows [5s 5h] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
stomper23 collected 39334 from pot
nisimasa finished the tournament in 170th place and received $150.42.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39334 | Rake 0
Board [6c 6d 8d Qs 9h]
Seat 1: stomper23 (button) showed [5s 5h] and won (39334) with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 2: diegokeep (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Propolis8644 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: pedroabm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Skämmes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: theshepman11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Fresh Fish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nisimasa showed [4s 4d] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 9: jeanious folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Out del big 55. 150,42$ 😒
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$50+$5
Stacks:
UTG pedroabm (9,950)
UTG+1 Skämmes (22,811)
MP1 theshepman11 (88,431)
MP2 Fresh Fish (49,841)
MP3 nisimasa (17,767)
CO jeanious (28,816)
BTN stomper23 (30,669)
SB diegokeep (76,845)
BB Propolis8644 (25,580)
Blinds: 800/1,600 Ante 200
Pre-Flop: (4,200, 9 players) nisimasa is MP3 4:spade: 4DIAMONd
4 folds, nisimasa goes all-in 17,567, 1 fold, stomper23 goes all-in 30,469, 2 folds
Flop: 6:club: 6DIAMONd 8DIAMONd (39,334, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: Q:spade: (39,334, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: 9:heart: (39,334, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: 39,334
stomper23 shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
5:spade: 5:heart:
nisimasa shows two pair, Sixes and Fours
4:spade: 4DIAMONd
stomper23 wins 52,236 (net +21,567)
nisimasa lost 17,767
Esa es la mano. Hiló fino el colega...
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Break!
Nos quedan 3 balas pero son las de mayor calibre (55 6-max, 55NL y 11+R)
Aún no estamos en ITM pero tenemos opciones en las 3.
De momento 150.42$ en premios.
Go!
13 años 5 meses
1.797
TT vs 44 para ponernos en la media en el 6-max.
16 años 9 meses
7.289
Go nisimasa! Me tengo que ir a sobarrrr
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Out del 55 6 max de 18.
Flip A7 vs 44. 237.5$
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10+$1
Stacks:
UTG Neva1987 ([="#0000cc"]49,893[/])
UTG+1 manoups ([="#0000cc"]27,884[/])
MP1 Danilo pires ([="#0000cc"]7,127[/])
MP2 szarinista ([="#0000cc"]35,898[/])
MP3 estebanfergo ([="#0000cc"]31,828[/])
CO Alf1331 ([="#0000cc"]29,750[/])
BTN Danya Kpsv ([="#0000cc"]19,779[/])
SB Kompre$$or ([="#0000cc"]85,778[/])
BB nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]31,081[/])
Blinds: 800/1,600 Ante 150
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]3,750[/], 9 players) nisimasa is BB ADIAMONd KDIAMONd
[="#777777"]4 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]estebanfergo goes all-in 31,678[/], [="#777777"]3 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 29,331[/]
Flop: 8:heart: A:heart: 2DIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]64,012[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: 10:spade: ([="#0000cc"]64,012[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: JDIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]64,012[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]64,012[/]
estebanfergo shows three of a kind, Tens
10:club: 10DIAMONd
nisimasa shows a pair of Aces
ADIAMONd KDIAMONd
estebanfergo wins [="#0000cc"]64,759[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]32,931)[/]
nisimasa lost [="#0000cc"]31,081[/]
... out del 11+R. TT es una mano que tengo muuuuy atravesada. ITM pírrico de 56,54.
13 años 5 meses
1.797
Break!
Una pena de hora. Pero seguimos vivos en el 55NL en plena burbuja.
Llevamos 150 + 237 + 54 en ITM. Asi que ya estamos freerolleando. Fui chip leader y ahora tengo 14BBs. A doblar!
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$50+$5
Stacks:
UTG TheWesss ([="#0000cc"]17,322[/])
UTG+1 schmette ([="#0000cc"]32,569[/])
MP1 betojch ([="#0000cc"]7,278[/])
MP2 Bitoks ([="#0000cc"]24,098[/])
MP3 nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]10,828[/])
CO scottiewato ([="#0000cc"]18,651[/])
BTN ArielBahia ([="#0000cc"]4,799[/])
SB Hamlet79 ([="#0000cc"]5,782[/])
BB KaptianKush ([="#0000cc"]23,870[/])
Blinds: 400/800 Ante 75
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]1,875[/], 9 players) nisimasa is MP3 K:spade: ADIAMONd
[="#777777"]4 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa raises to 1,680[/], [="#777777"]1 fold[/], [="#cc0000"]ArielBahia goes all-in 4,724[/], [="#777777"]2 folds[/], nisimasa calls 3,044
Flop: 2:club: 3:club: 7:heart: ([="#0000cc"]11,323[/], 2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: A:heart: ([="#0000cc"]11,323[/], 2 players, 1 all-in)
River: JDIAMONd ([="#0000cc"]11,323[/], 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]11,323[/]
ArielBahia shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
A:spade: J:heart:
nisimasa shows a pair of Aces
K:spade: ADIAMONd
ArielBahia wins [="#0000cc"]11,323[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]6,524)[/]
nisimasa lost [="#0000cc"]4,799[/]
... otro más que nos calzan. Ahora si que andamos peados con 7 ciegas.
13 años 5 meses
1.797
No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$50+$5
Stacks:
UTG ArielBahia ([="#0000cc"]13,248[/])
UTG+1 Hamlet79 ([="#0000cc"]4,832[/])
MP1 KaptianKush ([="#0000cc"]23,995[/])
MP2 TheWesss ([="#0000cc"]15,472[/])
MP3 schmette ([="#0000cc"]35,319[/])
CO betojch ([="#0000cc"]5,228[/])
BTN Bitoks ([="#0000cc"]22,048[/])
SB nisimasa ([="#0000cc"]4,554[/])
BB scottiewato ([="#0000cc"]20,501[/])
Blinds: 500/1,000 Ante 100
Pre-Flop: ([="#0000cc"]2,400[/], 9 players) nisimasa is SB A:club: Q:heart:
[="#777777"]1 fold[/], [="#cc0000"]Hamlet79 goes all-in 4,732[/], [="#777777"]5 folds[/], [="#cc0000"]nisimasa goes all-in 3,954[/], [="#777777"]1 fold[/]
Flop: 3DIAMONd 5:heart: 2:spade: ([="#0000cc"]10,808[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: 10:heart: ([="#0000cc"]10,808[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: 3:club: ([="#0000cc"]10,808[/], 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: [="#0000cc"]10,808[/]
Hamlet79 shows a straight, Ace to Five
4DIAMONd A:heart:
nisimasa shows a pair of Threes
A:club: Q:heart:
Hamlet79 wins [="#0000cc"]11,086[/] (net +[="#0000cc"]6,254)[/]
nisimasa lost [="#0000cc"]4,554[/]
Y así termina. Con otro pollazo. 3 ó 4 manos después.
13 años 5 meses
1.797
55 6-max 237.5$
11+R 56,54$
55NL 91,95$
Big 55 150,42$
Total: 536,41$ (inversión de 330$)
Salimos en positivo pero ha sido una pena llevar varios torneos bien para estamparse de todas las maneras posibles. Ha sido un día feo, aún así, sumamos :encouragement:
13 años 5 meses
1.797
15% fivetrick 80,42$
3% pejenaute65 16,08$
15% alicantinodani 80,42$
10% kocho 53,64$
17% pika 91,14$
5% sebato 26,80$
Cualquier cosa ya me comentais. Empiezo ahora las transfers. Gracias x la confianza.
14 años 6 meses
2.680
GG tio si sacas pack yo estaré ahí fijo :D
16 años 9 meses
7.289
gg!!
Nos vemos en el proximo como dice kochi ^^
Un saludo!
13 años
833
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