Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

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26/12/2008 11:57
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Hola a todos,

Hace como 2 meses que no juego en FT. A principios de esta semana recibí este email del servicio de atención al cliente:

[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear XXX,[/]

[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Please be advised that Full Tilt Security has temporarily suspended your Full Tilt Poker account, pending a full review.[/]

[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Automated systems have discovered indicators of possible account misuse, which violates the Full Tilt Poker Site Terms and End User License Agreement.[/]

[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Specifically, your account is under investigation for the use of prohibited software. Please see the information below regarding our policies on prohibited programs:[/]

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[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]More information on prohibited programs can be found in the Full Tilt Poker Site Terms and EULA:[/]

[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To be clear, players on Full Tilt Poker must make their own decisions, without advice or support from software programs or algorithms. Full Tilt Poker exercises a zero-tolerance policy on the use these prohibited programs. Using such software is grounds for immediate closure of the account and forfeiture of account funds. (100% of confiscated funds are distributed back to the victims of the cheating).[/][=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

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[=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1. The following types of programs are not acceptable under any circumstances:[/]



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  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Automated poker-playing programs capable of participating in online poker games[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Shared hand history databases, including subscription services, and the exchange of personal databases
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    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. The following types of programs are not permitted during play:[/]



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  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that make recommendations on what to do in the current hand (e.g. fold, call, raise)[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that provide assistance in making poker decisions and confer an unfair advantage over opponents
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    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3. The following types of programs may not be allowed during play, depending on their specific use:[/]



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  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Subscription services that provide extra information about opponents, such as tournament histories and statistics[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that could be used for collusion between players[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that provide or assist in table selection[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Poker calculators that compute poker probabilities or hand values[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Other programs that confer an unfair advantage to the user
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    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4. Notwithstanding the above, the following types of programs are currently permitted:[/]



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  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Database programs for the analysis of personal hand histories (i.e. hands in which the player is dealt cards)[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that display statistical information taken from the player's personal hand histories[/]
  • [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Programs that assist in learning the skills of poker, provided that they are not used during play
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    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Full Tilt Poker is committed to maintaining the fairest poker games available anywhere. We do not permit or condone any conduct that could diminish the integrity of our games. Misuse of such programs can result in a permanent loss of playing privileges, and possible forfeiture of account funds, depending on the severity of the offense.[/]

    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]No action is required by you at this time. However, if you know of any specific reason why these indicators may have been reached in error, please contact[/][=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].

    [/] [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You will be informed of the results of the review when it is complete. We understand your desire to have this matter resolved quickly, but please understand that investigations require extensive data collection, analysis, and the cooperation of various other parties, all of which affect the amount of time required. [/]

    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Thank you for your patience while this required review is conducted.[/]

    [=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Full Tilt Poker Security and Fraud[/]

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    Mi respuesta fue esta:

    Dear Full Tilt Poker team,



    I got surprised reading your email but I accept that you have to investigates these kind of actions you don´t allow.



    I´m open to colaborate. As far as I know Holdem Manager and Poker Tracker are the 2 programmes I´ve used playing in Full Tilt, besides it´s a long time without playing in Full Tilt Poker (maybe more than 2 months), so in case someone has used my account recently, please keep me informed.



    Thanks and best regards,

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    y ahora mismo recibo su Baneo definitivo...:eek:

    Hello XXX,



    Apologies for the delay in responding to your mail.

    As you were previously informed, your Full Tilt Poker account was suspended pending a review of your activity on our site.

    As a result of this review we have taken the decision to exclude you from the site. While the results of the review were inconclusive, you share a number of similar characteristics with accounts that have breached our site rules.

    As such, we have taken this decision to exclude you permanently as a precautionary measure to protect the integrity of our site. While we understand that this decision will be frustrating we are exercising our authority to close any account as outlined under Term 3 of our End User License Agreement:

    You are not permitted to set up any further accounts on our site.

    Regards,

    Ed

    Security

    Full Tilt Poker

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    No he hecho otra cosa que jugar un poco de NL10, con el HM o PT encendido. No uso el chat, no juego con ningún amigo/conocido en la misma mesa... en fin no se que ha podido pasar.

    Ahora no juego en FT pero quien sabe si en un futuro no quiera regresar.

    ¿Qué puedo hacer? No me gustaría quedar como un tramposo porque no lo soy.

    Un saludo y FF

    26/12/2008 20:30
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    Pregunta:

    Te devolvieron el dinero que tenias en la cuenta?

    Si es asi, pues a otra sala a grindear :D

    26/12/2008 20:58
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    Me quedaban centimos MONTEALEGRE, así que los doy por perdidos.

    26/12/2008 20:59
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    La gente se lo toma de coña pero andan baneando a muchisima gente por

    Datamining

    Calculadoras

    Visitar webs o usar programas como pokerstove

    Yo por lo que lei en foros los clientes de full tilt poker y pokerstars son autenticos troyanos .

    Yo se ya de uno que por datamining le han baneado su cuenta en stars para SIEMPRE

    O sea que mucho ojo con visitar webs como sharkscope y mas o mismamente la ultima que vi por usar el simple MSN mientras jugaba , a uno del foro 2+2 le banearon su cuenta

    Lo siento por el que abrio el mensaje porque da mas que rabia pero estos son a veces unos idiotas cerrando cuentas

    26/12/2008 21:19
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    Pero entonces, qué es lo que tenias en el PC para que te hagan eso ?

    26/12/2008 21:47
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    DanMathew;219659 escribió:
    o mismamente la ultima que vi por usar el simple MSN mientras jugaba , a uno del foro 2+2 le banearon su cuenta

    habria que ver que mas estaba haciendo, si estas en una mesa 6max con 4 colegas en la misma mesa cantando por msn pues evidentemente te mereces un baneo... hay que tener en cuenta que a FTP y PS no les conviene ir baneando por banear sin pruebas porque dejan de ganar dinero, asi que me temo que todo aquel que ha sido baneado algo habra hecho

    27/12/2008 17:28
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    IkNoWuRBluFFiNg;219686 escribió:
    habria que ver que mas estaba haciendo, si estas en una mesa 6max con 4 colegas en la misma mesa cantando por msn

    Yo lei a una persona que le banearon de la sala y le llevaron los mas de 8000 dolares por una cosa parecida con el msn ..O sea que ahi si acertaste .Y fue ademas en Pokerstars

    28/12/2008 19:21
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    DanMathew;219659 escribió:
    La gente se lo toma de coña pero andan baneando a muchisima gente por

    Datamining

    Calculadoras

    Visitar webs o usar programas como pokerstove

    pokerstove estas seguro????

    generalmente cuando quedo en la duda en una mano lo abro y hago los calculos mientras juego, en verdad esta en los softwares prohibidos???

    28/12/2008 21:56
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    sconf87;220184 escribió:
    pokerstove estas seguro????



    generalmente cuando quedo en la duda en una mano lo abro y hago los calculos mientras juego, en verdad esta en los softwares prohibidos???





    no se en fulltilt, pero en pokerstars no hay ningún problema si usas pokerstove. Lo dice en su página:


  • ¿Podéis proporcionarme un listado de las herramientas y los servicios permitidos? A continuación, detallamos una lista con ejemplos de herramientas y servicios permitidos:

  • ¿Podéis proporcionarme un listado de las herramientas y los servicios permitidos?
  • A continuación, detallamos una lista con ejemplos de herramientas y servicios permitidos:
    1. Calculatem Pro
    2. Coach Rounder
    3. Draw Poker Source
    4. FreePokerDB (aka FPDB)
    5. GameTime+
    6. Holdem Advantage
    7. Hold’em Cockpit
    8. Holdem Genius
    9. Holdem Indicator
    10. Holdem Manager
    11. Holdem Partner
    12. Holdem Radar
    13. Holdem Ranger (including RealTime HUD)
    14. NotesNL
    15. Omaha Indicator
    16. Omaha Poker Coach
    17. Paragon Poker Pal
    18. Poker Academy Prospector
    19. PokerAce HUD
    20. Pokerbility
    21. Poker Buddy
    22. Poker Butler
    23. Poker Calculator Pro (aka Poker Pro 2007 by PokerProLabs)
    24. Poker Copilot
    25. PokerEval (Registered Version Only)
    26. Poker EV
    27. Poker Evolver
    28. PokerGrapher
    29. PokerHands
    30. Poker Indicator
    31. Poker Juggernaut
    32. PokerKant
    33. PokerObserver HUD
    34. Poker Office
    35. Poker Potjie
    36. Poker Sharpener
    37. Poker Sidekick
    38. Poker Sniffer
    39. Poker-Spy
    40. PokerStat
    41. Poker Stove
    42. ************* Elephant
    43. ************* Equilator
    44. Poker Tracker (including TableTracker)
    45. Poker Vitals
    46. Poker Weapon
    47. Poker Wingman
    48. Pot Odd Rechner
    49. PPA Poker Calculator
    50. Sharktoolz Bankroll Manager
    51. Sharktoolz Poker-Reader
    52. SmartBuddy
    53. Star Tracker
    54. Stud Inspector v1
    55. Table Shark
    56. Telescope by SpadeIt
    57. Texas Calculatem
    58. ThePokerDB
    59. Tournament Indicator
    60. Tournament Shark
    61. Tournament Updater

    Algunos ejemplos de herramientas y servicios que están prohibidos mientras PokerStars se está ejecutando son:

    1. Insight Poker Hound
    2. ************* ICM Trainer
    3. SAGE Decision Calculator
    4. SharkScope (including SharkScope HUD)
    5. Sit n’ Go End Game Tools
    6. SitnGo Wizard
    7. SNG Power Tools
    8. Spade ICM
    9. STT Analyzer by PokerSoftwareTools
    29/12/2008 05:15
    Re: Baneado de Full Tilt sin comerlo ni beberlo

    gracias!!

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